KGRE Radio Program 5206
Part 2 — WWW — Learning English with The Muppets
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Dewi Lestari is very good with English. Just listen to her latest CD ‘Out
of Shell’ — a brilliant CD with wonderful English. I asked
Dewi to tell all of you, our KGRE listeners, about how she started learning
English and where her interest in English came from. Here she is right now.
‘Yes. OK, uh so the story is er when I was a kid, when I was like 8 years
old or something, I lived two years in Medan, and and my dad, we lived in a
suburb, we didn't have entertainment so he bought us a VCR player and that's
the only you know that's the only tools that we have to entertain ourselves. So
we recorded everything that we have on on tv on that VCR and we just replay it
over and over again, imitate the sound and my favourite teacher he he teacher,
quote — unquote, is The Muppet Show.
You know I love the show and I imitate everything. I didn't understand what
what it means mostly but you know I just I just erm listen and try to repeat
and imitate.’
When Dewi was very young, she loved English and she loved The Muppets Show on
television. She and her family watched that program often and they loved it.
Have you ever seen it — Kermit, Miss Piggy, Animal and so on — all
wonderful characters on that fabulous puppet show. Here is a song from the
program.
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KGRE Radio Program 5203
Part 4 — Indonesian Music — Anggun
Anggun is here today on KGRE. Kevin met her in Jakarta in late May, 2006 and
here she is to introduce herself to you on KGRE.
‘I'm Anggun. I'm 32 (laughter), Indonesian, Javanese actually, and
singer, song writer and … a wife. There's always been this kind of
problem actually … holding … actually I, I don't speak much of
languages. I only speak Indonesian, English and French. I used to speak a
little bit of Javanese. Well, it's not actually a language, it's dialect and I
think being a musician, being an artist you've developed a certain easiness
with with languages, with sounds, and it certainly helped me in learning
languages different because I learnt, I learnt by ears first and then through
the theory.’
KGRE Radio Program 5205
Part 4 — Anggun and English Part 1
When Kevin met Anngun in Jakarta he asked her about learning English. Anggun
certainly can speak English very well and here she is today on Kang Guru Radio
English. Listen for her comments about English and French. And a question for
you to answer — which language did she learn first — English or
French? Okay? Which language did she learn first — English or French?
Anggun –
‘I learnt English first, ya. I actually learnt it at school when I was
nine because I went to Catholic school. And err the problem that I'm still
having is with the time because with the conjugation. Because you know how it
is in Indonesian language there is everything is in present. You just have to
say when? hi hi. So I still have problems with that kind of err I think it's
it's it's in my blood. I just don't know how to say things properly sometimes.
And conjugation is still something so very unnatural for me. And the same, the
same problem happens to me in French. And it's erhm it is a much more
complicated language.’
Maybe you have the same problem as Anggun — conjugation of verbs in
English. Past, present and future tenses often cause problems for Indonesian
students but keep working hard and remember to use your English everyday, every
day!
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KGRE Radio Program 5111
Part 6 — Shanty and Learning English
When KGRE first met Shanty we were quite surprised at how well she spoke
English and how very, very happy was to use it. Shanty is certainly a very
confident young woman — not just with English but we think in many areas
of her life. Here she is on KGRE today.
‘I don't know I don't think I ever learn, no I don't think I ever learnt
it from school. I just watch a lot of movies, ya, a lot of movies. I don't know
I don't think I ever learnt, no I don't think I ever learnt it from school. I
just watch a lot of movies, ya, a lot of movies.’
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Some tips about learning English from
Kang GURU
When KGRE meets students and teachers all over Indonesia, this question is
often asked. ‘What is the easy and best way to learn English’
Unfortunately there is no easy way to learn English. English can be difficult
but there are ways to make learning more effective and enjoyable.
Enjoy learning English!
It is difficult to learn anything if we do not enjoy it. Therefore try to have
fun with English and try to make it a challenge rather than a chore.
Become a member of an active language club!
Meeting regularly with other keen language students will give you a lot of
practice time and many good experiences. It is often easier to learn more from
your friends in a social and fun environment.
Be active!
To really learn a language, especially speaking and listening, you need to be
an active participant. Don't just be a bystander or spectator. Get in there and
go for it — full steam ahead!
Fluency?
Some students think that the faster they can talk English then the more fluent
they are. Remember if people cannot understand you then you are not actually
fluent.
Perfection?
Many students want to speak ‘Perfect English’. They will even try
to speak English until they are perfect. Your English will never be
perfect — even native speakers do not use perfect English, especially in
day to day conversation and in other informal situations. Your Bahasa Indonesia
is not always perfect either so why expect your English to be perfect?
Check out this great English language site, too –
Click Here
Learning Languages
Greg can speak many languages including Swedish, Norwegian, French, German,
Indonesian and Danish. He gave KGRE some basic tips recently and maybe these
tips can help you too.
Greg works for the AusAID supported
ASEAN-Australia Development Cooperation Program (AADCP)
Learn some basic words and phrases as soon as you can. These are key words to
get you started.
‘hello’, ‘thank you’, ‘yes’,
‘no’, and ‘how much?’.
Learn to say ‘what is the word for …?’, or
‘how do you say …?’. Whenever you meet a foreigner
or an English speaker you can ask them for a little help. People will be happy
to talk to you and help you.
If you ask someone for a word and then you quickly forget it, don't worry! Ask
them to repeat the word until you have got it right. Keep asking and soon you
will remember.
Learn to count up to a million.
When you learn new words such as numbers and the basic words and phrases above,
try and use them immediately. Don't be afraid and don't wait till you think you
know them perfectly. Just practise and have fun.
Use every opportunity to practise your new language. Ask anyone you know who
speaks a little English (such as your friends and workmates) to speak with you
only in English.
Study Tips from Sonja
Every week KGRE receives letters from KGRE fans asking this question ‘What
is the best way to learn English?’ Unfortunately, there is no
easy way to learn English, but Sonia is here today with some tips to make your
learning more effective, and hopefully, more enjoyable too.
Join a conversation club or a discussion group
Learners who belong to language clubs have a lot more opportunity to use their
English in an interesting way. They can learn form other members of the club
and can also help others to learn too. Did you know that learners who are
involved in a conversation club generally improve faster than those who aren't?
So, join a club today and get speaking!
Listen to the news or other programs in English
By listening to the news in English on the radio we not only get a lot of
information but it's also a great way to hear the correct pronunciation and
intonation patterns of the announcers. Listening to the radio can be difficult,
but don't give up too easily. ‘Get into the Habit’ and
keep listening regularly, especially to Kang Guru!
Read articles or books in English
If you choose this study tip, remember to choose an interesting topic! It's
much harder to read something that doesn't interest you. Choosing a story or
article about something you enjoy will make your reading more worthwhile, more
fun and more effective.
Increase your vocabulary
You can do this by checking new words in a dictionary and writing them down
with their meanings or in an example sentence. But don't just write them down
and forget about them! Go back and look at those new words every few days and
try to use them when you speak or write in English. Let's just recap on those
study tips.
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Join a conversation club or a discussion group
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Listen to the news or other programs in English
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Read articles or books in English
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Increase your vocabulary
Study Tips from KGRE-ites
Today we're going to hear some very useful study tips from one of our KGRE
fans, Naomi Slowna. Naomi is from Pematangsiantar in North Sumatera, but she
moved to Bogor to study and graduated from the Bogor Institute of Agriculture.
She enjoys learning English and likes to use it when communicating with people
all over the world. Here's Naomi to pass on some of her English study tips.
Listen carefully, what are the two ways Naomi improves her English?
‘I had English lessons regularly at school. Many of my friends also took
English courses after school hours. So at first they had better English than
me. I never took an English course but I used my time effectively and studied
English all the time. But actually, the most powerful reason for me to learn
English is my hobby — music. I have loved music since I was 5 years old,
especially English language songs. But I didn't have much money to buy all the
cassettes that I wanted. Even now when I like a song I always need to know the
lyrics. So I listen to the song on the radio carefully and try to write down
the lyrics according to what I hear. Sometimes the lyrics of songs can't be
heard clearly, especially if there are slang words. Nevertheless I can still
learn a lot about vocabulary. You can do the same too. Now, my hobby is
watching movies. This helps me a lot to increase my English skills. Now my
English proficiency is far better than before and it is the result of all the
time I spent listening, writing and learning. I still write down songs lyrics
that I like and as many as I can. I believe our hobbies can be very useful to
help us study English. If you have a hobby then use it to study English,
okay?’
Naomi uses songs and films to learn English, and what a great idea that is.
Gede Surya in Leweyan — Surakarta
‘By listening to the news in English on the radio we can get a lot of
information and pay careful attention to the pronunciation and intonation of
the announcer’.
Even if listening to the radio is a bit difficult at first, don't give up too
easily. Keep listening regularly and gradually you will recognise more and more
words. Get Into The Habit and listen regularly — especially to Kang Guru,
but there are other English language radio programs, as well as television.
Andy Hanafi from SMU 1 Tompobulu-Bantaeng, South Sulawesi
‘Joining a conversation club and participating in discussions is the best
way to improve’.
Learners who are members of active language clubs have a lot more opportunity
to use their English in an interesting way. They can learn from the others in
the club and they can also help others as well. Research has shown that
language learners who are involved with a conversation or language club
generally improve faster than someone who is not.
Arfan Toppano — Bengkulu
‘Increase your vocabulary by looking up any new words in a dictionary as
soon as you can and then write it down somewhere and keep it’.
That is excellent suggestion Arfan. Checking the meaning of new words and then
writing them down does help you to keep those words. Look at these new words
every few days. Don't just write them down and forget about them. Look at them
often and try to use them in some writing or speaking practice.
Neneng Hendriyani — Bogor
‘If you want to read an English book or article then make sure you choose
an interesting topic’.
It's so much harder to read something that is not interesting for you. Try to
choose a story or text about a topic that you enjoy. It will make your reading
more worthwhile, more fun and more effective.
Mohamad Abdul Latif — Jember, East Java
‘Throw the shyness away. Learn a new vocabulary everyday’.
Yes, Mohamad. That is so very important. One of the reasons that people are shy
about using English is that they do not know enough vocabulary. Or they do not
know the right vocabulary for a certain situation. This makes people nervous
and shy because they get stuck trying to think of words they want to use.
Learning new vocabulary everyday is one way to become more confident to speak
with others.
Some Suggestions for Holding Discussions in a Club Meeting or Classroom
If a discussion is not successful then some of the reasons may include:
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The discussion topic may not interesting or even familiar to the participants
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The vocabulary or language required for the discussion may not sufficiently
well-known.
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Leadership and guidance in conducting the discussion may not be adequate.
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The discussion group may be too large.
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If members or students have difficulties discussing the topic in Bahasa
Indonesia then they definitely will not be able to discuss it in English.
Perhaps have an introductory discussion in Bahasa Indonesia first and then
after some vocabulary work move over into using English.
Some Suggestions for Holding Discussions in a Club Meeting
If discussion activities are not going well then some of the reasons may
include:
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The discussion topic may not interesting or even familiar to the participants
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The vocabulary or language required for the discussion may not be sufficiently
well-known by the participants
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Leadership and guidance to get the discussion going may not be motivating
enough
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The discussion group may be too large
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Can the participants discuss the topic in their own language? If members have
difficulties discussing the topic in Bahasa Indonesia then they will definitely
find it very difficult to discuss the topic in English. Perhaps have an
introductory discussion in Bahasa Indonesia first and then after some
vocabulary work move onto discussing the topic in English.
How to Develop Discussion Skills and Ability
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Make sure that participants are interested and have opinions on the topic. This
can be done by beginning discussions in Bahasa Indonesia. Gauge the interest
and knowledge of participants during this session.
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If appropriate, move onto discussing the topic in English, possibly after some
added input such as necessary or helpful vocabulary and ideas. This next
session could be done immediately but maybe it would be better to do it at the
next meeting thus giving members time to prepare their ideas and their expected
input.
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Start the discussion off in a relaxed and easy manner, perhaps with some simple
questions or a survey related to the topic. Presentation of a practical problem
associated with the discussion topic may be a good idea. For example, the topic
of ‘cannibalism’. The practical problem or dilemma could be that
students are lost in the desert and the only thing to eat is the body of their
dead best friend. What would they do? Could they eat the body or not OR would
they just die?
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If knowledge or interest is low then it may be a good idea to change to a more
suitable topic. Involving students in the selection of discussion topics is
often a good idea.
If you are Serious about improving your English, especially
pronunciation and grammar as used in everyday conversation, and also listening
skills then please listen to KGRE every week on a radio station near you!
Listening needs practice and if students are really keen to improve their
English language skills then they need to practise their listening too. Indra
and Indy know the importance of good listening skills and advise you to listen
to the radio and to watch television as often as you can. Speaking English with
your friends is another excellent way to develop, not only speaking skills, but
listening too. Lucky knows that learning English means a lot of practising and
motivation.
Kang Guru Radio English is one of the best ways to hear high quality English
language material designed especially for the pre-intermediate to intermediate
English language learner in Indonesia
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KGRE spoke with Andien a few years back. Here is a little of the interview
(unedited) and what Andien had to say about learning English.
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Kevin:
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Do you have any advise for other students, English language students in
Indonesia about studying English. Do you have any tips or ways that really help
you?
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Andien:
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Hrm ha ha ha well, I don't know because I'm because I'm the same with them but
erhm all I know is you have to perhaps practise it all, all the time, all day
and hrm ha ha and then hrm hrm music and song is the good way to practise your
English.
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Kevin:
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PADI said the same thing. Some of the members there used English language songs
to help them with vocabulary and sometimes even pronunciation.
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Andien:
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Ya, pronunciation and grammar also. Read a book and hrm watch cinema. Yah
listening yah, it's like watch the, watch the movies erh without the tag,
without the Indonesian tags.
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KGRE has often interviewed members of PADI.
Here is a little of those interviews (unedited) with the lads featuring Piyu
and Ari.
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Kevin:
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Erm, the the Biographies that you read, are they always in Indonesian or
sometimes in English?
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Piyu:
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Er, sometimes, er sometimes in English but er when, when I read the English one
er kadang tidak cukup, tidak cukup. There isn't enough time for me because I've
much much to do with PADI.
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Kevin:
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What type of biographies? Biographies of politicians or movies stars or
business men or what?
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Piyu:
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I have a George Lucas biography. I've also got Luther Martin King biography
too.
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Kevin:
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Are they in bahasa Indonesia?
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Piyu:
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No, they are in English.
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Kevin:
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And what about you Ari. How do you learn English?
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Ari:
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English dictionary of course. And now I always bring my electronic dictionary
in my bag because I think we, I think we must learn English now because that is
very important. Because right now PADI travelling a lot of place at Singapore
in Australia also but my, our English is very bad ha ha.
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Kevin:
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I don't, I don't think so. Hrm how long have you been studying English
seriously?
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Ari:
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Seriously since high school but we learn hard now ha ha.
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Kevin:
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So, you're more interested now because of being in the group, yup.
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Ari:
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Yes, yes, yes. Yes, very important for us.
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Kevin:
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Are you still all studying English?
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PADI
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Yeah we are.
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Kevin:
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And how do you do that?
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Piyu:
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Er, firstly maybe, maybe because because I like music. I love I love to listen
to music maybe. Maybe I just listen music and then I write I write the lyrics.
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Kevin:
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So this is English lyrics.
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Piyu:
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Yes, English lyrics as usually in a CD or cassette, a cassette so so I could
write and I could listen. So so what what what the song, what the song in my
mind I could I could read, read the lyrics.
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Kevin:
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So you use, use music a lot to study English. Do you have any problem with
English?
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Piyu:
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Problems, er maybe er in in pronunciation yeah, in pronunciation and and and
the conversation maybe. Maybe we could, we could understand what people talk to
me, what people talk to us. But sometimes hard for for for me to to to
interpret or to to answer, to answer the questions. Because how can we we we er
we talk
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Kevin:
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Often it's the vocabulary, the words. So studying English language songs is a
good way to improve vocabulary.
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Piyu:
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Ya. I think this is er, this is a good way to to to to learn to learn
vocabulary and learn English er er with listen the songs.
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Indy Barens
‘Actually my English is not as good as my friends but I am trying so hard
to learning English. I have a lot of friends who can share with me and teach me
how to speak English. Then I read and I watch TV a lot.’
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Lucky Resha
… lots of practice … talk to other people
… practice listening regularly … be confident
… learn and understand words from English language songs …
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PADI, Andien and Widi from AB Three
Piyu loves to read biographies about important and creative people such as
politicians and activists. He has read about the life of George Lucas, the
creator of Star Wars and Martin Luther King, the famous American activist. Piyu
also listens to English language songs and writes down the lyrics. He loves
listening to songs and he told KGRE that he gets a lot of help with
pronunciation and meaning from the lyrics
Ari spends a lot of time with his dictionary. He says, ‘And now I
always bring my electronic dictionary in my bag because I think we must learn
English now because that is very important. Because right now PADI traveling a
lot of places at Singapore in Australia also but my, our English is very bad ha
ha ha’.
Andien says her English is not that good but KGRE disagrees with her on that
point, She also says that she has to practise everyday. She often does
this with music, especially with the lyrics just like Piyu does. The grammar in
songs isn't always quite right but Andien understands this and is careful of
it. She reads lots of books and watches movies on television WITHOUT the
Indonesia translation on the screen.
Widi from AB Three reads novels and magazines but she also writes a lot.
Writing is one of her ways of studying English better. Sometimes she has to
force herself to do it because it is not as easy as reading an English
magazine. She says writing letters and stories are a great way to practice
English.
‘Well, sometimes I just have to force myself to do that because it's not
that easy you know to read English magazine or things like that because
sometimes we don't get the meaning of it though we understand what the writing
says but sometimes you just have to read again and again and then you get the
meaning’.
Tips will be posted regularly so keep watching and keep learning and Good Luck!
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